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My Rating

Having sat at one star for quite a while, someone's rated me five stars. I'm flattered, I just wish you knew me a bit better! Johnathan404(talk) 20:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

East Bridgford

  • East Bridgford is an offical signposted services on A6097 so where does it fit? Check for yourself on Google Streetview 3/4 mile from junction. B.bill 17:30, 10 August 2011 (BST)B.bill 17:30 10/Aug/2011.
Sorry, perhaps I was a bit too quick to lay down the law there. To be honest I agree that it's an odd one which doesn't really fit in at all.

I can't find any signs on Google Street View, but I assume I'm missing something. Let's not forget that the situation here is probably changing as we speak, so it's probably best until we know for sure what's happening.

In the past including a-road services was only a test and I was happy that we only had lists of signed services on the A1 and the A34. Although we've added many more roads since, I think it still stands that it means no harm is done if some signed services on relatively insignificant roads get left out.

Having said that, it's not an area I know well and you've done a lot of work here so I'm happy to hear what you think. Johnathan404(talk) 17:44, 10 August 2011 (BST)

I see now! I suppose that qualifies it as an A6097 service area, though I wouldn't say it is particularly important or necessary that it is included. Johnathan404(talk) 18:03, 11 August 2011 (BST)

Woodal services:

It's funny that you have uploaded some pictures of Woodal Services because I was in the southbound amenity building this saturday! I even took a couple of pictures to upload here. I've noticed Welcome Break's idea of security by having too many of those security scanners that you get in shops. I could not tell why they had ones in the toilets. This photo explains what I mean: File:142.jpg

Yes it is an unusual feature to a MSA where most either do not have one or it is well hidden.

Anyway, I have been looking on this site as a visitorfor a few months and I could not help joining so I created an account knowing when I would visit one and I soon uploaded my first photos to the wiki! I am just sort of... Facinated by these services on how good various ones are!

Gourleyo 19:18, 21 August 2011 (BST)

Welcome to the site! I had to do a double-check for a minute as I took my photos on a Saturday, but it was the 13th. I was on the northbound side but went to southbound purely because I have too much time on my hands.
I guess between us we're only adding to the number of cameras at Woodall!
Johnathan404(talk) 20:30, 21 August 2011 (BST)

File source

OK, so I have decided to get around this by asking you to mabe delete the file of Bolton West when it was owned by the Kenning Motor Group. We are less likely to get in trouble if people look at the file in it's original location. Good luck!

Gourleyo 08:46, 26 August 2011 (BST)

Now sorted, sorry to trouble you! Johnathan404(talk) 15:37, 26 August 2011 (BST)

Moto Restaurant and brand names

Up until when the Eat and Drink Co. came in at some services Moto had a Little Chef, at some they had Fresh Express, at many they just had a Moto Restaurant. For their shops some had Scoop (A self branded name) but many just had an unbranded Retail Store. Do you know why this was?

Gourleyo 16:14, 6 September 2011 (BST)

When Moto services were owned by Granada, they all had a Granada-branded restaurant. Granada then decided to introduce Little Chef to the majority of their services: at some this replaced the restaurant, in others it was built next to it.
I thought the Fresh Express brand was then applied to all Granada restaurants, but where the restaurant was part of a large servery, that servery carried the name 'Moto Restaurant'.
I thought that Scoop was used in addition to the retail store at services with a large retail area.
Hope this clears a few things up! Johnathan404(talk) 17:12, 6 September 2011 (BST)

Fictional service station

Hello, Johnny! Today I have made an A road service station in Google Sketchup which is of a Little Chef and a Burger King. The link is here. What do you think of it?

Gourleyo 17:22, 17 September 2011 (BST)

Hello! Excellent, I've never thought of using Google Sketchup before, in fact I've never known anyone create 3D illustrations. I've created several fictional services before but these have always been in plan view. I've always joked that there should be an MSA video game, and you've just brought us one step closer! Johnathan404(talk) 16:48, 18 September 2011 (BST)

Re:Fictional service station

Johnny, your MSA video game idea would be great, esspecially for the PC. It could have gameplay similar to Sim City with a budget and a few advisors plus a new 3D interface which allows you from top to bottom create walkthroughs and people could come along and you could hover over them to read what their minds our thinking! There could even be a day/night feature and you could design it so the shop may be shut at midnight but open most of the day. I might have been able to make it if I was good at code. I am good at graphics but not neccasarily code. I might even if there was a version of this game have a few pre-installed models of existing services but change the branding to avoid copyright but still use the same room plan. The map below explains my top reccomendations for them.

<googlemap version="0.9" lat="51.483949" lon="-1.533966" type="map" zoom="4" selector="no" controls="large"> 52.057903, -2.14114, Strensham Originaly built in the 1960's, rebuilt in the early 2000's and has been a hit. 54.452527, -2.606313, Tebay One side opened in 1972, the other in 1993. 51.422551, -1.033401, Reading </googlemap>

Gourleyo 07:23, 19 September 2011 (BST)

I think there have been more than enough Tycoon games to warrant developing this one! Airport Tycoon is a good model. Johnathan404(talk) 16:30, 19 September 2011 (BST)

Site age

How many years ago did this site get founded? The forums go all the way back to 2005 however the user contributions and photos go back to 2009 and the page histories go back about 2 months.

Gourleyo 19:30, 19 September 2011 (BST)

In its current form, the site was founded in July 2007. This wasn't the first time I'd experimented with a website about motorway services, so some of the posts in the forums will probably pre-date this site as we know it.
The ability to edit pages was only introduced in December 2009, this meant all the content had to be moved on to a new system with the dates starting fresh. Some photos on here have been used on previous sites as far back as 2005.
To stop Site5 getting cross with the huge load we put on their server, the publicly viewable page histories are purged every couple of months.
Hope this clears a few things up! Johnathan404(talk) 20:16, 19 September 2011 (BST)

Roadchef history

I would imagine it was around the time of the new millenium but do you know the year that roadchef changed the funkier old logo to the more relaxed current one? Also do you know how long they have had a branded restaurant for and when they started to introduce Costa Coffee to most of their services?

Gourleyo 17:07, 21 September 2011 (BST)

The latest document I have with their old logo on is dated May 2000, and the most recent use of their new one I can find is June 2003, so it was some time between then.

Roadchef have used their own restaurant for as long as I know, but it has changed names many times.

Costa was used by 2000, probably a bit earlier. That's the best I can do I'm afraid, otherwise the information would already be on the site! Johnathan404(talk) 18:19, 21 September 2011 (BST)

Old versions

When you say that in it's current form the site was founded in 2007 but starting in 2009, you could edit pages, before you could edit pages did the site use the same interface?

Gourleyo 19:28, 26 September 2011 (BST)

Pretty much! One of the earliest designs for the site is archived here, but this was a temporary adaptation of what was already available. By February 2008 the more familiar design had been introduced, and on the face of it very little has changed since (behind the scenes things are very different). Most of the differences you can see there are down to limitations of the software that archived the page. Johnathan404(talk) 19:52, 26 September 2011 (BST)